The interview took place in Venice, CA July 1973. Photos by Diana Zlotnik, Barbara Burden, Alfred Lutjeans, Gary Beydler, Philip Cleveland, and Terry McDonnell. Pieces mentioned: Five Day Locker Piece(illustrated – University of California, Irvine, CA,  April 26-30) ; Prelude to 220, or 110 (illustrated – F Space, Santa Ana, CA Sept. 10-12) ; I Became a Secret Hippie(illustrated – Museum of Conceptual Art, San Francisco Oct. 3, 1971) ; Shoot(illustrated – F Space, Santa Ana, CA Nov. 19, 1971) ; TV Hi-Jack with Phyllis Lutjeans (illustrated – TV Studio, Newport Beach, CA Feb. 2, 1972); Bed Piece (illustrated – Market St., Venice, CA  Feb. 18-March 10, 1972) ; Match Piece with Barbara Burden (Pomona College, Claremont, CA March 20, 1972) ; 747 (illustrated – a beach near the Los Angeles airport, Jan. 5, 1973) ; Icarus (illustrated – 823 Oceanfront Walk, Venice, CA  April 13, 1973) ; The Church of Human Energy (drawing shown at Newspace) ;Dead Man (Riko Mizuno Gallery).